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From: Rob Schwartz <robs@gate.net>
To: Chaucer <chaucer@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu>; 'Alan Wagner'
<wagnera@conlog.co.za>; worship@praise.net <worship@praise.net>
Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Worship] Counterpoint to Multicultural part III clarified


>>certain movements and sequence of movements ought not be in church under
>any
>>circumstance. Specific examples might include the various love dances from
>>India that tell love stories between humans and Krisna, the Act UP!
Cadence
>
>I know a freind who very effectively ministers to the UFO group (dunno what
>they call themselves- people who believe firmly in UFOs and spend a lot of
>time trying to contact/see them) by saying that not only has he had an
>encounter with but is in constant contact with an alien- that it is a
higher
>life form... etc- basically gives the gospel in their terminology- and then
>closes with an offer to introduce them to this alien- Jesus. (and he, if
>anyone or anything, was alien to this world...)
>
>
>>multicultural expressions of worship to God, but I really don't think we
>can
>>take this to the nth degree and say that all cultural expression should be
>
>not all, but I believe that unless specifically denounced in scripture, we
>have to allow a lot of room for personal conviction...
>
>
>>into music terms, I don't think it would be appropriate for the worship
>band
>>to play a redeemed "Spirit of the Muse", or a redeemed "**** JC" or even a
>>redeemed "Stairway to Heaven" in a worship service. Can you use riffs and
>>progressions of these? I think Alan's post answers that well. I would also
>>consider the motive.
>
>This is the reason I replied to begin with... we use REM's "This one goes
>out to the one I love" re-versed at least once a month- admittedly this is
>youth/college worship- but it was a fave at a small church I used to lead
>in. (of course, most the people didn't know it was a REM song). But the
>bottom line is that God uses that song reversed quite often in my circles
of
>experience... and the motive is, of course, ministry/worship
>
>Like U2 said on a live CD (can't remember the name) in reference to "Helter
>Skelter"
>
>"<Some band> took this song from the Beatles... We're taking it back!!"
>
>God gave all musicians their talents- and He gave them songs- some of them
>used these songs for their own Glory... It was God's to begin with- I don't
>mind taking it back.
>
>
>
>>really don't think it is necessary or good to have a cultural expression
in
>>worship just so we can say we validate a person's heritage as being worthy
>>of recognition, or to draw attention to our differences, or to use as a
>>political platform. There are other valid reasons and uses for
>multicultural
>>expression, namely, to offer a more diverse and powerful (for us humans)
>>expression of human worship of God. Let everything that has breath praise
>>the Lord.
>
>I agree- if the purpose is to validate a culture or history that is not
>necessarily reflective of God's intervention- than to use multicultural
>expression in worship is not groovy. Everything we do in worship should be
>STRICTLY to worship God- and if using something cultural will help the
>people relate from an evangelical point, then great. but I don't think the
>church is the place to incorporate "<Your fave culture here> Celebration
>Month"
>
>
>>
>>IHST,
>>Geoffrey M. Williams, M. Div.,PTS
>
>
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