RE: [Worship] history and future of music etc.

["Liz" <demomb1@attbi.com>]

I'm not sure of what happened historically, but I think you should
listen to the latest Kevin Prosch album for inspiration.
http://www.kevinprosch.com  
I know he's been controversial in the past, but when it comes to
alternate tunings and using weird things for instruments, I'd say he's
right with you on that.  

I am looking forward to the music of heaven and tired of solely
imitating the secular music.  What I mean is that I'd love to see
something that would be so powerful and so new and unique coming out of
the church that the world would want imitate those sounds.  Just a
thought. . . why not?

Liz  =)  

-----Original Message-----
From: worship-admin@praise.net [mailto:worship-admin@praise.net] On
Behalf Of Ian Turnbull
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 12:56 AM
To: worship@praise.net
Subject: [Worship] history and future of music etc.

Hi folks,

Is there anyone on the list that has done history of music and is able
to assist with some research that I am doing.  I am trying to link up
the modern western scales with the type of music David would have
played. Obviosly the Psalms that he recorded would have sounded
completely different and we have very little hope of duplicating a
musical similarity to these.  I have learnt that 2/3/4 part harmony is a
relatively recent addition to music that we know (1200 - 1300 AD) as are
chords.  We know that there is not much in the way of "recorded music
notation" from early history, but that the Persians had a much more
perfect (if I cans say that) scale than our modern western scale.  How
about the scale that we know - I believe that the early church based
their music on the Greek scale which was pentatonic. We do not read much
at all about the early church music and how they sang and played music
except for a few references to prison doors opening because of praise
and other bits and pieces.  

How does the scale that we know (Do Ra Me...) which is "imperfect" with
respect to mathematics and frequencies fit in with the music of heaven -
I have heard of people "hearing" angels singing with what seems an
unearthly but beautiful song that touches the spirit.  This leads me to
think that our music is really temporary and will not come with us to
heaven but the "imperfect" nature of our music will pass away and we
will enter into a new realm with worship.  I would like to throw another
curve ball into mix.  How about "praise"  does God need our praise. 
Does he need to be told how wonderful and mighty etc etc He is.  If not,
then the "praise" that we know will not be neccessary in Heaven as it is
for our own benefit.  However worship is a totally different thing and
will be a part of heaven.  The Holy Holy Holy song of the angels in
Revelation will take on a whole new flavour.  

I am finding it fascinating that the music that we put so much effort
into learning and excelling in is really of a temporary nature and that
we really need to be free to express our worship and praise in a fashion
that may be jarring to our "trained ears" but does not neccessarily
follow a tradition of rote notes and phrasings.  I challange you to tune
your guitars to something totally different and to experiment with new
"scales" 

Anyway,  just some thoughts and I would value some feedback so as to be
able to present something a little more cohesive at my presentation.

thanks
Ian



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